Guiding Hands: E&D Webinar The ABLE Foundation Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz8UK_qQvG4 Automatic captions exported September 20, 2026. Names and wording may contain errors. [0:01] [music] [0:10] [music] [0:19] [music] [0:26] [music] [0:39] [music] [0:46] [music] [0:51] [music] [1:09] [music] [1:14] [music] [1:19] [music] [1:29] [music] [1:39] [music] [1:44] [music] [1:52] [music] [1:57] [music] [1:59] >> Mhm. [2:04] >> [music] [2:11] >> All righty, everybody. I see you guys [2:13] are logging on and joining us. Thank you [2:15] so much. We're going to get started at [2:17] 1:00 p.m. But until then, get yourself [2:19] situated, get a coffee, get a water, [2:21] whatever you're drinking today, and [2:23] we're really happy to have you here. [2:26] As you see on the screen, we have our [2:27] lovely pillar interns, which you'll be [2:29] hearing from shortly. [2:31] Uh yeah, looking forward to that. [4:04] >> Alrighty. Hello everybody and welcome to [4:07] Guiding Hands, a digital toolkit for [4:10] understanding disability. [4:14] We are your education and development [4:16] pillar cohort one of the Able [4:18] Foundation. My name is Melody Mon and I [4:21] am your pillar fellow. I'll pass it on [4:23] to the interns. [4:25] Hey everyone. I'm Eugene Choi. I'm a [4:27] junior at the University of Maryland [4:29] studying public health science [4:30] currently. [4:31] Hello everyone. My name is Linda Fokum. [4:33] I am a recent graduate from the [4:35] University of Maryland where I studied [4:36] public health science and English [4:38] language and literature. [4:40] Hello. My name is Natalie Jefferson. I'm [4:42] a current special education coordinator [4:44] at DCPS and a current doc student at [4:46] Morgan State University. [4:49] In addition to our lovely pillars, we [4:51] also have our pillar coordinator, Ms. [4:53] Courtney Thomas, who without her and the [4:55] help of Mr. Andre Howard, we would not [4:57] be able to put this project together. So [4:59] we're looking forward to showcase with [5:01] you what we've created. [5:03] I myself am a PhD student at the [5:05] University of Maryland studying [5:06] sociology for disability studies. In my [5:09] research and overall program right now, [5:11] I have noticed some systemic gaps in how [5:13] we operate and really understand [5:15] disability. [5:17] Culturally and linguistically diverse [5:18] families often encounter encounter [5:20] significant barriers when they're [5:22] navigating the US special education [5:24] system. There's a balance between [5:26] legalities, federal law, and how this [5:28] actually gets implemented into the [5:29] classrooms. The Individuals with [5:31] Disabilities Education Act guarantees [5:34] procedural safeguards, parent [5:35] participation, and equitable access. [5:38] However, these rights are not [5:39] experienced the same across all [5:41] families. [5:44] Our objective here at the education and [5:46] development pillar with Guiding Hands is [5:48] to cultivate the development of a [5:50] strengths-based framework that really [5:52] assists families from all backgrounds, [5:55] no matter where they are in the special [5:56] education process. Whether your coverage [5:58] is through for an IEP is through IDEA or [6:00] a 504 plan, we're here to help you [6:02] understand what this legal jargon [6:04] actually means. The initiative aims to [6:06] serve both families and the [6:08] professionals who engage with them by [6:10] addressing gaps in communication, [6:12] expectations, and shared [6:13] decision-making. The toolkit features [6:16] are mobile-friendly. They're designed to [6:17] be used on demand and accessible for [6:19] all. An exciting feature to our toolkit [6:22] is that it is under ways for translation [6:24] and will be available in Haitian Creole [6:26] and Spanish as well, which caters to the [6:28] DMV area and population. [6:31] The toolkit is designed for families to [6:34] aim to empower them by cultivating [6:36] clarity, confidence, and community. And [6:38] we also bolster educators and staff. We [6:41] offer guidance on culturally aware [6:43] communication, relational [6:44] trust-building, and collaborative [6:46] planning so that educators and [6:48] stakeholders in the special education [6:49] system can really understand how to work [6:51] with diverse families. [6:53] So, with that, we're going to be [6:55] presenting our Guiding Hands toolkit for [6:57] understanding disability. This is a [6:59] high-level overview of what we'll be [7:01] talking today. Our interns and myself [7:03] have been hard at work this academic [7:04] year to put together the resources you [7:06] see on the screen. After the pod the [7:08] webinar is over, you'll have the [7:10] opportunity to go to our website, and [7:12] later on, these materials will be [7:13] uploaded for your use. Feel free to [7:15] share them. Feel free to use them. We [7:17] are here for you as a community for the [7:19] community, so let's go ahead and get [7:20] started. [7:22] Starting up first, we have Eugene Choi. [7:25] All righty. So, I will be walking [7:27] through my four infographic series that [7:30] I created as part of my unique toolkit [7:32] deliverable. Um and so, the goal of this [7:35] infographic series here is to make the [7:37] IEP process and its related processes [7:40] clear and understandable for parents and [7:42] caregivers by breaking these steps down [7:44] into clear visual steps using using [7:46] large infographic style flyers. [7:51] Cool. So, that's the general overview of [7:53] this. It's a four infographic series [7:54] that helps inform caregivers and parents [7:56] again and just seeks to make it easier [7:59] and more understandable and digestible. [8:03] >> [snorts] [8:03] >> Infographic one is the 10 steps of the [8:05] IEP. This is the 10 key steps in the IEP [8:08] process and it's read sequentially top [8:10] to bottom from one through 10. [8:12] As you can kind of see, it's it's a full [8:15] process it's a full length process that [8:16] focuses on starting all the way from [8:18] student referral all the way down to the [8:20] development and then also review of the [8:22] actual IEP process itself. [8:24] A couple of the few important key steps [8:27] of this IEP process shown in the [8:29] infographic that I'll highlight today [8:31] include step two, which is the child [8:33] evaluation step where the school [8:35] assesses the child's needs and you know, [8:37] if the parents are disagreeing with the [8:39] school's evaluation, they're able to [8:41] request an external evaluation for their [8:43] child. Steps three and four outline the [8:45] eligibility of the child for the IEP and [8:47] then also 30-day window that schools [8:50] have to you know, sit down and write [8:52] this IEP plan for the child [8:54] with the parents and the rest of the IEP [8:55] team. And then step six I'll also [8:57] highlight as well, which is the actual [8:59] IEP meeting itself where the team meets [9:01] to discuss and and implement and and [9:03] plan this IEP out. The goal here is to [9:05] show that the IEP isn't just one meeting [9:08] or just one step or one process. It's a [9:10] it's a cycle with many multiple [9:12] checkpoints that have to be met [9:13] throughout the cycle. So, [9:15] um this infographic kind of just [9:17] highlights the general one through 10 of [9:19] of each step that has to be met through [9:20] the process. [9:23] Infographic two is your seat at the [9:24] table, a guide to your rights, which is [9:26] a infographic that outlines key parent [9:28] rights in the special education IEP [9:30] process. [9:31] This highlights a lot of the important [9:33] key rights that are protected that [9:35] parents and caregivers have protected [9:36] under the Individuals with Disabilities [9:38] Education Act 2004. [9:41] A couple of the key parent rights that [9:43] I'll highlight on this infographic [9:44] include uh participation in education [9:46] decisions. This is where parents are [9:49] really informed that they're not just [9:51] guests at IEP meetings. They're a [9:53] valuable and active part of the team. Uh [9:55] prior written notice outlines that there [9:57] should be no surprises or there aren't [9:59] any surprises allowed in the IEP [10:00] process. So, deviation from what's [10:03] written in in paper, you know, what's [10:05] written on the IEP plan is is not really [10:06] allowed and so parents have the [10:08] authority to kind of enforce that and [10:10] they have that right protected. [10:12] As well as parental consent authority, [10:13] which is basically the yes or no button [10:15] that parents and caregivers hold uh [10:18] for application and and applica- [10:20] application of of rights and resources [10:22] for their child through the IEP process. [10:24] The goal here is to empower parents and [10:26] caregivers so that they feel like active [10:28] uh members of the team and active [10:29] players in the IEP process for their [10:31] child rather than just passive observers [10:33] in the process. [10:36] Infographic three is be prepared, your [10:38] IEP meeting checklist. [10:41] This third infographic is designed as a [10:43] parent-oriented checklist style [10:46] infographic that they can use before [10:47] meetings uh kind of going into into [10:50] these meetings. [10:51] Instead of just explaining the entire [10:53] process in its own, uh it really just [10:55] highlights a couple of the key things [10:57] that parents and caregivers can do uh to [10:59] maximize success and comfort during [11:01] these meetings. Couple small things that [11:04] are listed on this infographic would [11:06] include things like what to bring. So, [11:08] uh items like a notebook, pen, copies of [11:10] past evaluations, even water or snacks [11:14] for long IEP meetings. What to prepare. [11:16] This includes writing samples from prior [11:19] schools and previous education, uh [11:21] prior medical or or therapy evaluations, [11:24] as well as progress reports that parents [11:26] might have for their child. So, this [11:28] would be really important to bring. And [11:30] And also what to review. Looking over [11:31] past IEPs if if available if if if [11:34] relevant, and then also progress reports [11:36] and and other evaluations that might be [11:38] relevant for the creation of the IEP [11:40] plan. [11:41] The goal of this infographic here is [11:43] basically just to reduce anxiety and [11:45] confusion for parents going into IEP [11:46] meetings, especially if this is their [11:48] first time entering into something of [11:50] this nature, just to ensure that they [11:52] feel comfortable going into it. [11:56] Cool. And then the last infographic that [11:58] I'll run down is understanding your [11:59] child's IEP team. This is an infographic [12:01] that highlights [12:03] the role of each individual that you [12:04] would expect to find in an IEP meeting. [12:06] So it really just highlights the key [12:08] role players and team members that [12:10] you're going to be walking into the room [12:11] with. This is a really important [12:13] infographic because it really highlights [12:15] the role and who exactly is going to be [12:17] in the room creating your IEP plan for [12:19] your child and who you're going to be [12:20] collaborating with. [12:22] Really just reduce anxiety and confusion [12:24] and kind of just make sure you're you're [12:25] know you know what you're walking into. [12:28] Couple of the key roles, the student [12:30] here is really the centerpiece and focus [12:32] of this infographic and is also the [12:33] center of an IEP meeting just because [12:35] the IEP plan is going to be created and [12:37] kind of structured for them. Your parent [12:39] or the caregiver, you know, this is the [12:40] most important advocate in the room that [12:42] has the most knowledge of the child and [12:44] and understands the needs and [12:45] experiences of [12:47] the student who who the IEP is being [12:49] written for. And then special education [12:51] provider, this is the teacher at the [12:53] school who's going to be providing these [12:55] services for your child through the IEP [12:57] plan. And then other related service [12:59] providers too. Um this could be like [13:01] speech therapists, other like medical [13:03] providers that you know have evaluations [13:05] or knowledge of your child [13:07] as well. So the purpose of this [13:08] infographic here is to really highlight [13:10] that the IEP meeting is collaborative [13:12] and that each person plays a very [13:13] specific role and to understand that as [13:16] a very important thing for parents going [13:17] into it. So as a whole I kind of wrap up [13:19] the the overall gist of the infographic [13:22] series, I really just want to make sure [13:24] that I used a lot of background [13:25] information and and some interview [13:27] insights to ensure that the [13:28] accessibility uh element of the [13:30] infographics was really clear and so [13:32] that they were easy to to access for [13:34] parents and caregivers as well as the [13:35] fact that reducing complex jargon or [13:38] special education [13:39] terminology was at a very very minimum [13:41] so that [13:42] the infographics could be understood by [13:44] anyone reading them. So. [13:47] Awesome. Thank you so much for that, [13:49] Eugene. And up next we have Linda Fokum. [13:53] Thank you, Melody, for the introduction. [13:55] So, now we will be moving into social [13:57] scripts. So, through analyzing [14:00] literature and interviews with [14:03] professionals and caregivers, we found [14:05] that it can be overwhelming to attend [14:07] and participate in IEP meetings like [14:09] Eugene stated. Because of that, we [14:11] developed social scripts for families [14:14] and students to help reduce that fear. [14:16] The main purpose of these scripts is not [14:18] only to explain the IEP process, but to [14:20] make it more manageable and predictable [14:22] by breaking it down to steps and phases [14:24] so that everyone knows what to expect, [14:26] and also for families to feel more [14:27] confident in participating. [14:30] So, the first of these social scripts is [14:33] a 10-page script that is catered to [14:35] caregivers, and it is titled titled the [14:37] IEP Meeting Social Overview and Insights [14:40] for Caregivers. This script is designed [14:42] to help caregivers understand the common [14:44] phases of an IEP meeting, but I also [14:47] want to mention that schools and [14:49] districts might have their own specific [14:50] protocols for how their meetings are [14:52] conducted. So, this resource is meant to [14:54] serve more as a general overview of what [14:56] to expect during an IEP meeting. [14:58] The social script also highlights common [15:00] misunderstandings when it comes to key [15:02] terms with the goal of helping [15:03] caregivers feel more comfortable in [15:05] special education spaces. The script is [15:07] broken down into five phases, which is [15:10] what you see in the circle, [15:11] that most IEP meetings follow, and it [15:14] includes introduction and rights, where [15:16] the team is established and caregivers [15:19] legal protections are reviewed. Next, we [15:21] have present levels of also often seen [15:24] as PLAAF, P, which is a discussion of [15:27] where the students [15:29] is currently performing and academically [15:31] and functionally. After that, we have [15:33] goals and objectives where specific [15:35] measurable targets are set for the [15:37] students in the coming year. [15:39] After that, we have services and [15:40] accommodation, which focuses on how [15:43] the supports and accommodations that the [15:45] student will be receiving and [15:49] what they will also need to order to [15:51] succeed. And lastly, we have placement [15:53] where the entire team comes together to [15:55] determine the setting in which these [15:56] services will occur or take place. [15:59] So, our second resource is understanding [16:01] my IEP, which is a social script [16:03] specifically designed for students [16:05] receiving special education services. [16:08] It's important to note that students are [16:10] a vital part of their IEP team and in [16:13] many cases they're required to be [16:14] invited to the I the IEP meeting [16:16] starting at the age of 13. [16:18] The purpose of having them attend their [16:20] own meeting is to help them begin to [16:21] understand their learning needs and also [16:23] participate in planning their future. [16:26] To allow students to be a part of their [16:27] IEP meeting, I created this social [16:29] script and it's similar to the caregiver [16:32] social script in a sense that it is a [16:33] general overview, but it also includes [16:35] talking points, which you can see on the [16:37] right, to help um students [16:41] throughout the entire meeting process [16:43] and also to give them ideas of what they [16:45] want to talk about. [16:47] So, another note is for professionals. [16:50] You can also use these scripts as an [16:52] opportunity to create space for both the [16:53] student and caregiver to actively [16:56] participate. Many families attending the [16:58] meetings um have a varying level of [17:00] familiarity. Therefore, in meeting them [17:02] at their current level of understanding [17:04] is not only crucial, but also allows for [17:07] a smooth integration of both caregivers [17:09] and students into the IEP team. [17:12] So, next we have additional resources [17:15] that are designed to help further [17:16] empower caregivers and strengthen their [17:18] advocacy skills. The first of these is [17:21] the Caregiver's Conversation Guide. [17:24] Through literature [17:26] analysis and interviews with caregivers [17:28] and professionals in special education [17:30] spaces, I found out that a lot of times [17:33] caregivers may not always know what [17:34] questions to ask during the IEP meeting, [17:37] which makes it more difficult for them [17:38] to be an active member of the meeting. [17:40] The conversation guide is meant to [17:42] support them by providing specific [17:43] talking points to allow them to feel [17:44] more prepared going into the meeting. As [17:47] caregivers, I just want to remind you [17:48] all that you are an equal partner in [17:50] your child's education and you have the [17:52] full right to actively participate in [17:54] every step of the process. [17:56] This is why this guide includes ways to [17:58] ask for clarification when you don't [18:00] understand terms and phrases, how to [18:02] navigate how your child's goals in their [18:04] IEP will be monitored, how to discuss [18:07] how your child's IEP will showcase their [18:09] personality, and also many more talking [18:11] points. [18:12] This guide can be used as a foundation [18:14] for the questions you want to you may [18:16] want to ask, but you can also expand on [18:18] them in your own way to make them unique [18:20] to your child. [18:21] So, after that, we have the 10 unwritten [18:23] rules of special education. This [18:25] resource was actually inspired by [18:27] literature by Professor Stephanie [18:28] Sanders Smith and her team, who [18:31] researched how many immigrant who found [18:33] that many immigrant families are not [18:34] introduced to the unspoken rules of [18:36] school systems, including what questions [18:38] to ask teachers and staff, and how [18:40] decisions are made in the institutional [18:42] academic setting. [18:44] Without the context, families often felt [18:47] unsure about how to fully engage in the [18:49] educational process, and I found this is [18:52] the same for families of children with [18:54] special needs. So, using her paper, I [18:56] want to translate the same idea to an [18:58] infographic for families with children [18:59] using special education services, and [19:02] this is how this infographic came about. [19:05] The main purpose of this infographic is [19:07] to break down important rights and [19:08] realities of special education that [19:11] professionals often know about but [19:13] families are still unsure or have not [19:14] heard about. There are 10 different [19:16] rules listed, but the main idea of all [19:18] these rules are that first, you do not [19:20] have to immediately agree to everything [19:23] that is presented to you during the IP [19:25] meetings or during discussions with [19:27] staff. [19:28] Second, you can advocate for your child [19:31] in your own language, cultural context, [19:33] and advocacy style. And lastly, as a [19:35] caregiver, you are an expert at the [19:37] table, especially when it comes to your [19:39] child's experiences, strengths, and [19:41] needs. And there are no institutional [19:43] barriers that can legally stop you from [19:44] being part of the IP and special [19:45] education team. [19:47] Finally, the last resource we created is [19:50] a glossary of common IEP terms. One of [19:53] the most common concerns that came up in [19:54] interviews was how confusing special [19:56] education acronyms and terminology can [19:58] be. These terms are frequently used in [20:01] meetings by professionals and sometimes [20:02] are not explained or elaborated so that [20:04] caregivers can understand. This glossary [20:07] is meant to make these terms more [20:09] accessible and easier to understand for [20:11] caregivers so that so that they can [20:13] easily navigate the meeting. [20:14] The glossary contains multiple education [20:16] terms, acronyms, and common diagnoses in [20:19] an A-to-Z dictionary style and also [20:21] includes examples to help everyone [20:23] better understand how these terms show [20:24] up in practice. [20:26] So ultimately, all of these resources [20:28] were created with one shared goal, which [20:30] is to make the IP and special education [20:32] process feel more accessible, [20:34] transparent, and inclusive for everyone [20:36] involved. Whether you are a caregiver, a [20:38] student, or professional, understanding [20:41] the process is what allows for [20:42] meaningful participation to happen. So [20:45] by breaking down complex information, [20:47] offering practical tools, and creating a [20:49] space for different voices, we hope to [20:51] shift the IP meetings from something [20:53] that feels overwhelming to something [20:54] that feels more collaborative and [20:56] empowering. [20:58] Thank you so much for that, Linda. Up [21:01] next, we have Natalie Jefferson. [21:06] Thank you. [21:07] Hello, everyone. This is a toolkit that [21:10] was inspired through our initial search [21:12] of online resources made to support and [21:14] educate culturally and linguistically [21:16] diverse parents regarding the IEP [21:18] process. [21:20] It was done during our first week of our [21:21] internship. So during my search, I found [21:24] that a lot of the resources explained [21:26] the process, but many of them were not [21:28] in layman's terms and they didn't give [21:30] too much insight on how the parent could [21:32] be an active participant. [21:35] Our initial search consisted of a [21:36] variety of resources included but not [21:38] limited to Maryland State Department of [21:40] Education, United Rehabilitation [21:43] Services, peer-reviewed journal [21:45] articles, and other sources. [21:47] My initial thoughts were [21:49] overall I found the links useful. Some [21:51] of the links were dense with information [21:53] and many had other links and buttons to [21:55] navigate. So I imagined a toolkit that [21:59] didn't require much navigation once [22:01] we've reached the resource. [22:03] Also, one of the provided links on the [22:04] website, it actually took us to [22:06] something else that wasn't what it said [22:08] it would be. [22:09] So, the most beneficial resource I found [22:12] actually came from a parent. This [22:14] resource was an example of a IEP folder [22:16] and it had pre-made templates of [22:18] questions, how to track important dates, [22:21] and what to keep for parent records and [22:22] information of what to gather and [22:24] prepare for meetings. [22:26] So I currently work as a special [22:27] education coordinator and it's my job to [22:29] conduct IEP meetings and this resource [22:32] hit every part of the IEP process and it [22:34] gave great tips for parents to prepare [22:37] and cover all of the areas that I would [22:39] cover during meetings with parents. So [22:41] bringing my own work knowledge together [22:43] with the search of resources, I decided [22:45] that explaining the process in layman's [22:47] terms and sharing how parents can be [22:49] active participants in each part would [22:51] be helpful. [22:53] So first I start with the knowledge in [22:54] that the process can be overwhelming and [22:57] I explain that just because your child [22:58] is referred for special education [23:00] services, it does not mean that they [23:02] will be automatically placed in special [23:03] education. [23:05] I inform parents that at this step they [23:07] can request a meeting to discuss with [23:08] staff what interventions have been done [23:11] to support their child before staff [23:12] decided on placing a referral. Ask for [23:15] concrete examples to show areas of [23:17] deficit, and I also explain to parents [23:19] that they can place the referral [23:20] themselves, and if they did place the [23:22] referral, they can also request a [23:24] meeting to share their reasons for [23:26] requesting special education services. [23:29] So, next I dive into the IEP timeline. I [23:31] just lay out exactly the steps from the [23:33] referral to the reevaluation, which is a [23:36] 3-year mark, and it completes the full [23:38] cycle of the IEP process. And I explain [23:41] that this cycle repeats as long as the [23:43] student is eligible for IEP services. I [23:46] explain in the toolkit that this full [23:48] process is not repeated every year. Once [23:50] the initial IEP is implemented, the [23:52] process does not include all of these [23:54] meetings. [23:56] This is generally what most states [23:57] follow from the federal legislation. [24:00] However, it is adapted at each state [24:02] level, and this resource is this [24:04] resource that I made is specifically for [24:06] DC Public Schools. [24:08] So, in DCPS, they have a unique added [24:11] meeting, which is called an AED meeting, [24:13] and it stands for analyzing of existing [24:15] data. [24:16] Where the IEP team gathers information [24:18] on the child to determine if they have [24:20] enough information to proceed to [24:21] evaluation, or if based on the data they [24:24] believe the child does not need to be [24:25] evaluated at the time, and maybe they [24:27] can just benefit from intervention. [24:30] So, during this section, I explain that [24:32] the parents can gather work samples they [24:34] have, or they can bring up the progress [24:36] that's being made at home. They can also [24:39] bring in any outside evaluations or [24:41] reports if your child is already [24:42] receiving outside services such as [24:44] speech therapy or occupat- occupational [24:46] therapy. [24:48] This is the time to share any [24:49] information to help the IEP team get a [24:51] full picture of the child, and sharing [24:53] things that the team may not otherwise [24:55] have access to is a great way to be an [24:57] active participant. [24:59] Throughout the presentation, I also [25:00] explained that the process may stop at [25:02] different points for some parents, such [25:04] as this AED meeting or at the evaluation [25:07] meeting. If the child was evaluated, but [25:09] the results showed that they did not [25:11] qualify for an IEP. I also provide [25:13] different supports parents can ask for [25:16] if their child is not found eligible. [25:18] So, next I discuss when services are [25:21] provided. This is one of the times in a [25:23] process where this is not actually a [25:25] meeting, but just a step being made at [25:27] the school level. [25:29] Once services are implemented, I [25:30] explained that a way parent can be an [25:32] active participant is to inquire about [25:34] how the change in schedule is affecting [25:36] their child. Is there any specific [25:38] language being used at school that they [25:40] can mirror at home? And ask for informal [25:43] or formal updates on progress. [25:45] You can also access speak to your You [25:47] can also speak to your child about [25:48] services, how they're going, so their [25:51] child can be aware that you know what [25:53] things are happening at school. [25:56] Lastly, I discuss reevaluation. [25:59] I explained that children are [26:00] reevaluated every 3 years, and this is [26:03] to determine if the child is still [26:04] eligible for services or has made enough [26:07] progress to be exited from the program. [26:10] It protects children from being [26:11] forgotten in special education, and a [26:14] reevaluation can be requested at any [26:16] time from both parents and staff if they [26:18] feel that the child has made enough [26:20] progress to exit services. [26:23] Overall, throughout the presentation, I [26:25] share information with parents such as [26:27] documents they can gather, questions [26:29] they can ask, and what the meeting will [26:31] actually look like or if it's not a [26:33] meeting and just information being [26:35] shared. [26:36] I hope that this will give parents and [26:37] guardians a better understanding of [26:39] what's to come, and I chose to use [26:41] voice-overs in my presentation because [26:43] reading all of this information can be [26:45] overwhelming, and sometimes just using [26:47] conversation to break down our education [26:49] acronyms and jargon can be more [26:51] beneficial to parents. I also wanted to [26:53] make something easier for our targeted [26:55] audience of culturally, linguistically, [26:57] and diverse parents to access as the [27:00] Able Foundation is working to get all of [27:01] our toolkit items translated into [27:03] different languages. [27:07] Alrighty, thank you so much Natalie, [27:09] Linda, and Eugene. As you've had an [27:11] opportunity to hear from our interns, [27:13] you've seen how they've been bridging [27:14] accessi- accessibility gaps in research [27:16] and online resources by amplifying [27:19] utility of lived experiences. I'm going [27:21] to continue this research-to-practice [27:23] presentation as we get into what we've [27:25] actually been doing here in the pillar [27:26] throughout the academic year. As Natalie [27:29] mentioned, through weeks 1 through 2, we [27:31] focused on readily available resources [27:33] that a parent, guardian, or stakeholder [27:36] would find readily online. This is when [27:38] you're sitting down, you get notified [27:39] that your child has a disability, and [27:41] you had to Google because sometimes the [27:43] documents provided to you don't really [27:44] make sense. So, you want to hear it from [27:46] a parent, you want to hear it from a [27:47] peer, or what something simplified has [27:50] to say. We've compiled a compilation of [27:52] resources that are readily available [27:54] online for everyone to access. There [27:56] brief explanations that we've included [27:58] next to every hyperlink that will [27:59] accompany your understanding what that [28:01] resource is and this is a mixed media [28:03] formatting for your ease of navigation. [28:05] There's a mixture of blog posts, videos, [28:07] infographics, and websites that you can [28:10] follow through to get information in [28:11] different formats. This is an extension [28:13] of the already existing resources that [28:15] are included on the Parents' Place of [28:17] Maryland. So, feel free to check this [28:19] out and this is our English guide. In [28:21] addition to English, we also have a [28:23] Spanish guide. This mirrors the English [28:25] version and it is also free to access in [28:28] any format and this is also an extension [28:30] of Parents' Place of Maryland's guide in [28:32] Spanish. As of right now, you can see we [28:34] have four resources included on this [28:36] guide. We are continuing to grow and [28:37] improve this as we are uh diving into [28:40] our translation services, so more to [28:42] come, a lot to look forward to. [28:45] As we get into the toolkit items, it's [28:47] one thing to understand law, policy, and [28:49] action when we see it in a resource, [28:51] it's one thing to hear about the action [28:53] steps in the 10-step process. But, what [28:55] is it like for the student who actually [28:57] goes through these processes and looks [28:59] at life after high school? I had the [29:01] pleasure of opportunity of professional [29:03] MC who talks about his experience with [29:05] the IEP process, how it played out for [29:07] his family, himself, how he understood [29:09] his rights as a student, and then [29:11] continued to navigate higher education [29:13] and make a career. Where once he was [29:15] told by his disability he wouldn't be [29:17] able to do something, he ended up [29:18] proving his goals and his plan wrong and [29:21] defying those norms and becoming what he [29:23] wanted to be in a way that was unique to [29:25] him. This podcast episode will be [29:27] included in the toolkit for your [29:29] reference just to humanize the [29:30] experience for that it's not just a [29:33] document, it's not just a plan. These [29:35] are real-life lived experiences and [29:37] these are professionals that you may see [29:39] walking around in the spaces every day. [29:42] Extending on from this, this toolkit was [29:44] not [29:45] um nothing short of a labor of love. We [29:47] have a white paper included in the [29:49] toolkit to help you understand the [29:50] foundational points that inspired this [29:52] project. Not only guided by my [29:54] dissertation research and the work that [29:55] we've done in this pillar, but we've [29:57] also guided our toolkit creation through [29:59] the breakdown of logic, theory, and [30:01] background for what digital toolkits and [30:03] supports exist for special education and [30:05] how we can adapt our resources to mirror [30:07] this. [30:09] Following through, not only are we [30:11] working on a white paper, but with the [30:13] founder and CEO of the Able Foundation, [30:15] Howard, we're also working on a [30:17] literature review to get our findings [30:18] published for culturally and [30:20] linguistically diverse families. With [30:21] the help of interns, their codings and [30:23] insights and weekly logs, we are putting [30:25] together this literature review to [30:27] better understand the nature of [30:29] culturally and linguistically diverse [30:30] caregiver experiences in IEP meetings. [30:33] We have our research questions shown [30:34] here on the screen, more to come and [30:36] develop with this, so keep an eye out on [30:38] your academic journals. This will be [30:39] made available for you that you can take [30:41] it back to your districts, take it back [30:43] to your communities, and share widely [30:45] because when it comes to decision-making [30:46] spaces, having that citation sometimes [30:49] does carry the weight. [30:51] Lastly, we have our intern insights. Our [30:53] pillar interns have been really hard at [30:55] work as you've heard from their [30:56] wonderful presentations about what [30:58] they've been doing to bridge [30:59] accessibility gaps, whether this was [31:01] reviewing research and policy, web-based [31:03] resources, we brought to you validated [31:05] supports. We're going to be including [31:07] their thoughtful remarks throughout the [31:09] year of their experiences of learning on [31:11] a weekly basis, engaging in article [31:13] talks and live workshops every [31:15] Wednesday, and just their lessons, [31:17] observations, and discussion points that [31:19] you can bring home to your families and [31:20] educators alike. [31:23] So, with that said, we have a message [31:24] from our pillar for closing remarks for [31:26] how to absorb the information that was [31:28] shared with you today. [31:31] It takes a village to raise a child, and [31:33] it was never supposed to be your journey [31:34] to walk alone. We are here to support [31:37] you. There are mechanisms in place to [31:38] combat the inequities that we see [31:40] unfolding every day. Although these [31:42] systems are not designed for families of [31:44] color, we stand united in compassion to [31:47] cultivate heart, empathy, and collective [31:50] growth together. [31:52] Therefore, everybody, we thank you [31:53] kindly for your time today. To learn [31:55] more about the toolkit and the Able [31:56] Foundation, please feel free to scan the [31:59] QR code below. Questions or comments, [32:01] you can feel free to reach out to us to [32:03] learn more. And if you the QR code for [32:05] whatever reason is not working for you, [32:07] feel free to type into Google the Able [32:09] Foundation and you'll find our website, [32:11] and this toolkit will be listed under [32:12] education and development pillar. Thank [32:14] you so much for your time, and at this [32:16] time we're open for questions. [32:26] All righty, if there will leave it open [32:29] for about 2 minutes. If we don't see [32:31] that there's any questions coming in, [32:32] we'll go ahead and wrap up. But again, [32:34] we thank you for your time and look [32:36] forward to hearing from you. [33:17] Alrighty, it looks like we got our first [33:19] question. The question reads, "What [33:21] would you suggest for those who find out [33:23] later in the process, like in high [33:25] school?" So, do we have an intern that [33:27] would like to take this question about [33:29] whether or not you figure out your child [33:31] has a disability in high school? [33:37] I would say, um, it's the same process [33:39] if you find out early. Um, it depends on [33:42] what the, uh, [33:43] what the diagnosis is, um, what what the [33:46] disability is, um, and depending on it [33:48] if they if they made it this far, um, [33:51] and are just now being identified for [33:54] needing services, [33:56] either [33:57] it's they fell through the cracks, which [33:59] is not a good thing, or, um, they have [34:01] been able to they have been able to make [34:04] it this far with the tools that they [34:06] have already in their toolkit. So, um, [34:08] as soon as you can get services, the [34:09] better, um, and it's just the same [34:11] process. So, finding those resources, [34:13] um, making sure that you advocate for [34:15] your child, and, um, just following the [34:17] steps. [34:18] Yeah. And building off of what Natalie [34:20] mentioned, kind of what Linda said [34:21] earlier as well, starting at the age of [34:23] 13, um, students are required to attend [34:25] the IEP meetings. So, if you're [34:27] diagnosed later at the onset of 13, [34:29] you're required to show up to your [34:30] meetings. And essentially, when you [34:32] enter 11th and 12th grade in high [34:33] school, you're entering your [34:34] transitionary plan phase of the IEP, [34:38] which is when schools in the K-12 system [34:40] are getting ready to prepare you for [34:41] life after high school. This can be [34:43] transitioning into the workforce, [34:44] independent living, or exploring high [34:46] school. Although at the or excuse me, [34:49] exploring college. Although at the [34:50] college level, the IEP does not exist as [34:52] a formalized plan, many universities and [34:55] and community colleges actually have [34:57] adaptations to this plan. It'll be the [34:59] disability services It'll be the [35:02] accommodation center. So, depending on [35:03] if you go the post-secondary route, you [35:05] can continue your services and [35:06] accommodations there. If you're entering [35:08] the workforce or a certification [35:10] program, you can also advocate for [35:11] yourself there as well. [35:18] And yeah, thank you guys so much for [35:21] attending our live stream. We really [35:23] thank you. Oh. [35:25] Excuse me. We have another question. The [35:27] question reads, "If I suspect my child [35:29] has a disability or needs an IEP, what [35:32] is the best way to start the process [35:33] with my child at school?" [35:37] Do we have any interns that like to take [35:39] this question? [35:41] I would say the best way is to reach out [35:43] to the general education teacher or if [35:46] you have access to the special education [35:47] teacher or the special education [35:49] coordinator, um and just tell them, "I [35:51] would like to place a special education [35:53] referral." And they can't deny you, um [35:56] and then once they start that process, [35:58] they should contact you with the meeting [36:00] and then you can tell them your [36:01] concerns. You say, "This is This is what [36:03] I'm concerned about. Um I'm seeing [36:05] deficits in this area." Or it could be [36:07] something as, you know, this this [36:09] disability runs in the family. I'm [36:12] dyslexic, or my brother's dyslexic, how [36:14] whatever it may be, um and just bring [36:16] your concerns. And once you bring your [36:18] concerns, they have to start the [36:19] process. So, just talk to the gen ed [36:21] teacher or the special education [36:22] teacher. [36:25] Yeah, and just to build of off of that [36:27] on that. Um, when you suspect your child [36:30] has a disability and bring up to the [36:32] school, they undergo this process under [36:35] the child find, which is a free [36:37] mandatory process that's under the IDEA [36:39] Act. And it's going to locate, evaluate, [36:42] and identify a child that's suspected to [36:44] have disabilities. And like I said, it's [36:46] mandatory, so no school can [36:49] ignore any of your concerns. So, your [36:52] child's going to be evaluated [36:54] regardless. [36:56] Right. And [clears throat] to add on to [36:58] that, what was just said as well, a big [37:00] part of that would be that even if the [37:01] school somehow determines that your [37:03] child may not qualify for a disability, [37:06] you can still go and request an [37:08] independent external evaluation, an IEE, [37:11] uh, to have your child reevaluated. And [37:12] often times you can get the school to [37:14] cover that cost as well. So, that's kind [37:16] of like the final step as well if you [37:17] disagree with the initial evaluation [37:19] that the school provides. So. [37:22] Yeah, and don't feel afraid to advocate [37:24] for yourself if the initial evaluation [37:26] is not something that makes sense to [37:27] you, please feel free to leverage the [37:29] toolkit. We have conversation script, [37:31] external links and videos and [37:32] walk-throughs and talk-throughs that'll [37:34] actually guide you through how to [37:35] navigate the process. Cuz sometimes it [37:37] can seem daunting to disagree with [37:39] someone who's a representative of a [37:41] school district that's telling you [37:42] something, but you know your child. You [37:44] are the advocate and you live with your [37:46] child the most, so feel free to insert [37:48] your knowledge as well because you are a [37:49] valued member of the team. [37:52] Up next, we have another question. [37:54] If I'm volunteering If I'm a volunteer [37:56] teacher at a weekly weekend school and I [37:58] suspect that a student has a disability [38:00] or needs an IEP, what is the best way to [38:03] start the process with the parents? [38:12] I If you have the relationship with the [38:15] family, um, you can bring it up if you [38:17] feel comfortable. [38:19] Uh, however, as a volunteer teacher, I [38:21] would, um, I would talk to staff that [38:24] work directly at the school and have [38:28] them have that conversation. [38:30] But again, just [38:32] it's never okay to just diagnose a child [38:34] because even as professionals, we are [38:36] not we are not able to diagnose them. [38:38] So, bringing up these concerns is is a [38:40] really really hard conversation. So, I [38:43] would just again, share it with a [38:45] teacher who works directly at the [38:46] school, but never bring up these [38:48] conversations without concrete facts. [38:50] So, the same way I tell the parents to [38:52] ask for concrete evidence. Make sure [38:54] that you have enough information. [38:57] So, work samples and compare it to the [39:01] average of the other children in the [39:03] classroom to say, "Hey, you know, the [39:05] average child is performing at this [39:07] level, but I see your daughter, she may [39:08] be down here. We are seeing a little bit [39:11] of deficits." And just make sure you [39:13] have those concrete examples. But as a [39:15] volunteer, I wouldn't recommend that you [39:16] bring up the conversation unless you [39:19] have that great relationship with the [39:20] family. [39:22] And yeah. Yeah, [39:23] sorry. [39:25] Oh, yeah. I was just going to say I [39:27] agree. And to add on, be careful [39:30] with the how you proceed with referring [39:33] the [39:35] the student's case to a special [39:36] education staff or another staff that [39:39] kind of has more involvement with the [39:42] student because language does matter and [39:44] the way that you bring up diagnosis [39:47] or concerns do matter because parents no [39:50] one wants to really hear that their [39:52] student has a diagnosis or is on some [39:55] form of or needs special education [39:57] services. So, like I said, and also the [40:00] evaluation process is extensive. So, the [40:02] way that you bring it up and also the [40:04] way that it is evaluated and discussed [40:06] with parents, that all matters. So, to [40:09] sum it all up, I'm just trying to say [40:11] language does matter and the way that [40:12] you approach this topic also does. [40:15] Yeah. Building off of what Natalie and [40:17] Linda both shared, we're not by any [40:19] means dismissing your concerns and your [40:20] observations. It's just as long as you [40:22] have definitive data points is what we [40:24] usually call them. Making sure that [40:26] you're charting those differences in [40:27] your observations. Talk having an open [40:29] relationship with whoever your lead [40:31] teacher is, head teacher is, or [40:33] administrative party is at that school [40:36] that you're working at. Get everybody [40:37] involved in the conversation because [40:39] your intel does matter, your input does [40:41] matter. And make sure that it's a team [40:42] effort to approach the family and [40:44] approach the student because it is an [40:46] emotional journey that we all take [40:48] together. No one person is left out of [40:50] it. So, it's something that we just walk [40:51] on together. But, thank you so much for [40:53] bringing up that question. [40:57] Leading into [40:59] the next part of this, I wanted to ask [41:02] the interns specifically, what has been [41:04] your experience with just developing the [41:06] toolkit items? I know we heard briefly [41:08] that you mentioned that you were walking [41:10] through a series of assignments, weekly [41:12] webinars, preps that we were doing, and [41:14] even like live work shopping, whether it [41:17] was coding, whether it was looking at [41:19] interviews, outreach. Can you start us [41:21] off with just sharing how that [41:22] experience has been for you? Maybe we [41:24] can start with Eugene. [41:26] Yeah. So, for me, I think even from week [41:29] one, we were doing [41:31] an analysis of existing resources for [41:33] parents and caregivers and families to [41:35] navigate the IP. I already, even from my [41:38] perspective, kind of putting my shoes, [41:40] putting myself in the shoes of those [41:41] individuals, like trying to navigate the [41:43] process, I already figured out that a [41:45] lot of it was just a lot like a huge [41:47] complex mess [41:49] of very, very long PDF documents and [41:52] kind of like links that lead to nowhere, [41:53] like Natalie and Linda mentioned. So, [41:57] I think that, on top of the literature [42:00] review [42:01] process that I underwent, as well as the [42:03] interview process and kind of keeping [42:05] all those in mind when creating my [42:07] toolkit item, really just helped me [42:10] focus on the two things as I mentioned, [42:11] like accessibility, so making sure that, [42:14] you know, clicking on something leads [42:15] you exactly where you're supposed to to [42:17] go, and kind of making sure that it's [42:19] easy for for individuals to kind of [42:21] access it, whether it's digital or or [42:23] actual like a physical tangible [42:24] material, [42:25] as well as just like the lack of jargon, [42:27] I think the the use of like I think just [42:30] reducing the amount of crazy acronyms [42:32] and then long complex special education [42:34] terminology. [42:36] And just breaking that down into the [42:37] language that pretty much the average [42:39] person can just read and understand for [42:41] the most part, [42:42] were the two biggest things that I [42:43] focused on and I really tried to [42:44] implement into my my personal individual [42:47] toolkit deliverables, so. [42:50] I'm seeing. Thank you so much, Eugene. [42:52] And how about you, Linda? What was it [42:53] like for you? Yeah, it was almost the [42:55] same process as Eugene's, starting from [42:57] week one, just going through the sources [42:59] and really finding the gaps [43:01] in what I saw, which was mainly a lot of [43:04] information and also information that [43:07] wasn't accessible in terms of how the [43:09] layout was. So, from that to the [43:12] literature reviews, I learned a lot [43:14] about the importance of language and the [43:16] importance of having the families [43:19] integrated in the system, which kind of [43:22] made the process easier because once [43:24] they're integrated and accepted in an [43:26] academic situation or setting, they're [43:29] allowed to feel confident, empowered to [43:31] advocate, and also to [43:33] um bring up any of their concerns. So, [43:36] leading to my toolkit items, cuz I [43:38] started designing my toolkit items [43:40] before I conducted my interviews. [43:43] I really focused on the language that I [43:45] use, and sometimes it was a lot of words [43:47] just because I felt like I had to [43:50] always, you know, I had to write [43:52] everything, but in general, no one wants [43:54] to read everything, so I really focused [43:57] on making sure that the words that I did [44:00] include, it all made sense and all you [44:02] got the gist or the main idea that I [44:04] wanted to use. And also colors and [44:07] images, like the graphics that I used in [44:09] the social scripts. At first, there were [44:11] many different types, but I realized [44:12] that keeping it really cohesive, which [44:15] is why I chose a monoline design, kind [44:17] of makes it a little bit more [44:18] accessible, especially for the students [44:20] toolkit. And also for the students [44:21] toolkit, I researched what colors are [44:24] attracted and easy for students, [44:26] especially students with autism. That's [44:28] the diagnosis that I decided to really [44:31] base my toolkit on. [44:33] Um so, that's why I chose a kind of pale [44:37] blue and a pale red because they said [44:39] that red is a very exciting color and [44:41] blue is easy to look at for them. And [44:45] when my interviews were conducted, I [44:46] learned about some other struggles and [44:49] gaps that both professionals and [44:50] caregivers found, which was mainly [44:52] language and also acronyms. So, that is [44:55] what led to me creating the glossary and [44:57] also including talking specific talking [45:00] points in my toolkit items because I [45:02] just wanted to create, you know, [45:04] information and resources that benefit [45:07] everybody, caregivers, students, and [45:10] also to help professionals because [45:12] sometimes they just don't know what [45:14] they're missing cuz they've been doing [45:15] it for so long. So, hopefully through my [45:17] toolkit items, um they can use it to [45:20] kind of refresh how to bring parents or [45:23] caregivers and families in general into [45:26] the IEP setting and the special [45:27] education process. [45:29] Um thank you so much, Linda. And [45:31] speaking of professionals, we are [45:32] honored to have a professional in the [45:34] room here with us ourselves. So, [45:35] Natalie, this experience like for you [45:37] because you do this everyday. This is [45:39] like the bread and butter that you [45:40] breathe and you provide and you care [45:41] for. Um how was it like developing your [45:44] toolkit items and what was your [45:45] experience been? [45:46] I [45:47] It was hard for me because um I had so [45:49] much information that I wanted to [45:51] condense. Um and when we did our initial [45:55] search, it was it was great seeing what [45:56] information was out there. Um and like I [45:59] said, the best resource actually came [46:01] from a parent. So, I'm trying to bring [46:03] my knowledge of what I do at work every [46:06] day and the resources that were [46:08] available, [46:09] I try to figure out the most accessible [46:11] easy way. Like, okay, let me do [46:13] something somebody can look at and they [46:15] can listen to at the same time because [46:17] even for me going through the resources [46:20] and trying to read all of the [46:21] information and trying to digest it and [46:23] remember it and things look good with [46:26] pictures and charts and everything, but [46:28] it's it's a lot to process. Um like we [46:30] said with the acronyms and all of the [46:32] different jargon. So, I just wanted it [46:34] simple and just really trying to make it [46:37] easy, you know, not too much because as [46:39] we're [46:40] as we're going through a hard transition [46:43] of you know, your child possibly being [46:46] identified as having a disability, [46:48] that's a lot right there to process. So, [46:51] trying to process even more information [46:53] in this whole new world, it it it can [46:56] take a lot. So, I wanted something [46:58] simple and I chose to do the [47:00] voice-overs, but as I started doing the [47:03] voice-overs and making the toolkit, I'm [47:05] like, okay, I have to tell about this [47:07] part. I have to tell about this part. [47:08] But, what if this doesn't happen and I [47:10] have to talk about assessments and I [47:12] have to talk about this part. So, just [47:14] really trying to condense everything um [47:17] and trying to take into [47:19] taking the data from the articles, the [47:20] literature review that we did. It talked [47:23] about how schools focus on the process [47:25] and not the feelings of the parent and [47:28] it talked about how we have translators, [47:31] but the translators don't really [47:32] understand the the cultural aspects of [47:35] the language. So, they're translating [47:36] the words, but they're not understanding [47:38] the feelings and the context behind what [47:40] they're saying. So, it's still like [47:42] you're not talking to somebody. So, [47:44] again, just using simple words, just [47:46] having a conversation um and I kind of [47:49] use my teaching background in it. Just [47:51] small words, small words, short, simple [47:55] to talk to families and not necessarily [47:58] trying to attack anybody's intelligence, [48:00] but again, it's a hard transition. So, [48:02] just making sure that it was simple and [48:04] easy so we can translate it into the [48:06] different languages. [48:07] Uh but, I think bringing my professional [48:10] life [48:11] kind of hindered me a little bit um just [48:14] because I know I had so much to share um [48:16] and it's not about me sharing, it's [48:18] about what the parents can access at the [48:20] time. So, for the IEP process, I tried [48:23] to make it as condensed as I could um [48:25] and just tell them from the beginning to [48:27] the end what it would look like and the [48:28] different things that they can look for [48:30] because I see every day where parents [48:33] come into meetings and they don't know [48:35] what the meeting is going to be about. [48:36] They they don't know what questions to [48:38] ask and they don't know how to prepare [48:39] for the meetings. So, just that simple [48:41] piece, as long as we can tell you, "This [48:44] is what it looks like. This is how to [48:45] prepare." [48:46] I think they can then come in and then [48:49] hopefully, if you have a good [48:50] professional, they will take it the rest [48:52] of the way, but I think I gave enough [48:54] information to get them for them to get [48:56] started. [48:57] Yeah. Uh sometimes it's a blessing and a [49:00] curse to be part of the field and also [49:02] try to provide and give back in a way [49:04] that is a different lens on perspective [49:06] taking. I definitely relate to that. Um [49:08] I used to be a classroom teacher myself, [49:09] which is what inspired this project [49:11] because I was called in to serve as a [49:13] translator for a couple of IEP meetings [49:15] where my district didn't have [49:16] translation services in certain [49:17] languages that I spoke, but [49:19] traditionally, you're supposed to be a [49:21] verified translator who receives [49:22] clearance to be a part of those [49:23] meetings, but sometimes in those moment [49:26] pin drop moments where you need someone [49:28] uh you're bringing people from a [49:29] classroom, you're bringing people that's [49:31] the staff working in a cafeteria, you're [49:32] trying to make ends meet the best as you [49:34] can because often times policy and law [49:37] doesn't match the everyday. So, the real [49:39] inspiration of this toolkit was [49:41] essentially highlighting what happens at [49:43] the everyday because we read about these [49:45] things, we see these things, we hear [49:46] these things, that's great, but what [49:48] does this look like in practice? And [49:50] with all your hard work, interns, um, [49:53] that's possible. We have the toolkit and [49:55] we really look forward to, um, [49:57] everybody just having access to this. So [49:59] again, as a reminder, please feel free [50:01] to scan the QR code to learn more about [50:03] what we do. In addition, my toolkit [50:06] items will really showcase the thought [50:08] process of what went behind the Able [50:10] Foundation's thought process for the [50:11] education and development pillar. As we [50:13] are cohort one, we really wanted to [50:15] bring together and lay the foundation [50:17] for what cohorts that are coming after [50:19] us are going to do to build, bolster, [50:21] and bring this project to life even [50:23] further. We are proud to say that we're [50:24] partnered with Parents' Place of [50:26] Maryland, which is a federally appointed [50:28] special education resource center here [50:30] in the state of Maryland. Um, each state [50:32] is appointed their own parent their own [50:34] resource center. So where whether or not [50:36] you live in Maryland or not, you're in [50:38] the DMV or you're through the United [50:39] States broadly, these resources will [50:42] mirror and look the same as the [50:43] resources that may be in your state. But [50:45] please note, just as Natalie mentioned, [50:46] in DC area, they have the AED meeting. [50:49] Federal law can be translated at the [50:51] state level, at the district level, even [50:53] at the community and school level. So [50:55] although we are not a whiz and we can't [50:57] tell you absolutely all the answers in [50:59] the world, we are taking the first steps [51:01] towards creating that equity, that [51:02] inclusion, and that foundation to get [51:04] you guys there. So again, we want to [51:06] thank you so much for your tuning into [51:08] our live stream. We appreciate your time [51:10] and we look forward to seeing what you [51:12] guys have to say. Feel free to leave us [51:14] comments, feedback, hit us up on our [51:16] email and our social accounts, and we [51:18] hope to see you next time. Thank you so [51:20] much and have a great day. [51:23] Bye-bye.